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California Does Not Need Any More Marijuana Users
April 3, 2009

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Commentary
by Jim Gogek

The romance with weed is never-ending for California marijuana devotees. Now, they claim their beloved drug can save the state by solving its unrelenting budget nightmare.

State legislation is afoot to legalize and tax marijuana to backfill the state budget. But the reality of this plan would be far different from its vision. I won't go all "Reefer Madness" on you or claim that hemp T-shirts are a slippery slope to damnation. The problem with marijuana legalization is simpler and worse.

California cannot afford more stoned people, especially stoned young people. We need a lot fewer stoned people.

Prevention experts understand the problem with legalization: The greater the access to an intoxicant, the more abuse there will be of that intoxicant. Alcohol isn't the most dangerous drug in the world because it's worse than heroin or cocaine. It's the most dangerous drug because it's so easily accessible. You can get large quantities of it anywhere, and cheaply, too. Underage drinking is a big problem because kids can get alcohol so easily.

Legal marijuana would mean more access to marijuana. The number of marijuana users would spike, including teens. Problems related to marijuana use would spike. Marijuana lobbyists argue that if a dangerous drug such as alcohol is legal, then marijuana should be, too. I've never understood that. With all the problems we have with alcohol, why would we want to legalize another intoxicant?

Right now, there are 127 million alcohol users and 14 million marijuana users in this country – because one is legal and the other isn't. But, most alcohol users don't get intoxicated. About one-fifth of alcohol users binge drink or regularly drink heavily.

The serious problems from alcohol occur when people get intoxicated. With marijuana, you get intoxicated every time you use it. That's the whole point. Marijuana intoxication and alcohol intoxication may be different, but both are bad for society.

Marijuana intoxication means cognitive impairment, grandiosity, short-term memory loss, difficulty in carrying out complex mental processes and impaired judgment. It severely hurts your ability to perform at school and work. It saps initiative and drive. It increases confusion. In other words, it makes you stupid.

An increase in marijuana use among California's young people and work force would be very bad for the state. Right now, we're in a recession in which people without college degrees are losing jobs twice as fast as people with college degrees. Our future economy will be based on innovation, education and highly skilled labor.

But we're already not producing enough college graduates for our future workforce needs. With many more stoned teens and young people, the problems of an unskilled, uneducated and unmotivated work force will get worse. Stoned people can't learn or work very well. Marijuana is the loser drug: That's the big problem with it.

What about the idea that California can balance its budget by legalizing marijuana and taxing the heck out of it? You haven't been paying attention to special-interest politics if you believe that.

Moneyed special interests run policy in this state. Look what happened when California criminal justice policies made prison guards one of the most powerful lobbies in the state. The union quickly began dictating policy in its own interest.

The alcohol industry is so powerful in California that beer taxes haven't increased in nearly 20 years; the last time they were raised was by a minuscule amount and the industry almost killed that. A wealthy marijuana industry will soon co-opt policy-makers and dictate how much tax we charge, where we sell the product and who gets to buy it. Why would a marijuana industry be different from any other special interest?

Personally, I don't think the marijuana lobby believes its own arguments. When I talk to legalization proponents, it usually boils down to their angry demand that people should be left alone to get stoned if they want to. That libertarian sentiment shows a complete disregard for the public good. If legalizers can't understand that, elected policy-makers certainly should.

The disingenuousness of the marijuana lobby becomes clear on the subject of medical marijuana. For marijuana lobbyists to push both recreational marijuana and medicinal marijuana at the same time is duplicitous. It's nakedly obvious where their real desires lie.

Recreational drug use and medical drug use have nothing in common. If pharmaceutical lobbyists pushed recreational and medical use of the same drug, they'd get hauled before Congress and slammed by state attorneys. But the marijuana lobby sees nothing wrong with its tactics.

How about a little more candor from marijuana romantics? Like the panhandler standing on a street corner with a sign that says, "Why lie? I just want a beer."

Jim Gogek was a former editorial writer for San Diego Union-Tribune.

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COMMENTS ON THIS ARTICLE:

Posted by Percy Menzies on 06 Apr 09 09:45 AM EDT
Jim Gogek has brilliantly exposed the problems with drug legalization. Those of us who are in the front lines in treatment, see the worst of the patients impacted by drugs. Drug addiction generally begins recreationally and for 5-10% of the population, spirals to a point where they need treatment. It is a well-known fact that access and price are the two biggest contributing factors to increased addiction. We have seen this with heroin in countries like Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan. Hashish, the traditional drug of abuse is now replaced by heroin because of easy availability and price. In our own country the steep increase in the use of opioid pain medications has propelled addictions to opioids to the top of the chart.Why? because of easy access - often the medicine cabinet at home. Let us learn a few lessons from history before we jump head on into legalization.

Posted by Dave Aho on 06 Apr 09 10:07 AM EDT
Wow, a journalist who sees these issues through clear glasses! I am also on the front lines of treatment and see through the maze of issues related to medical use and legalization of Marijuana. I am all for proper medical use, but let's regulate it just like other medicine.

Posted by gro4me on 06 Apr 09 10:59 AM EDT
I am going to die from the most treatable and curable cancer known to man because my "doctor" was so busy practicing drug war politics in my exam room that she didn't have time to diagnose the advanced cancer that she had to look at every time she looked me in the face. The war on drugs kills legitimate patients because doctors become so focused on making sure patients don't get any drugs that they also make sure patients don't get any treatment.Drug warriors are so focused on making sure that no one has access to drugs, that they cannot admit that there is legitimate need for drugs in treatment of patients pain. The stigma this creates causes unneeded suffering for patients with serious medical conditions. Medical marijuana has made it possible for me to survive long enough to see my grandson born. Medical marijuana has reduced my Healthcare costs by over 85% by reducing my prescription drug intake from 35 pills a day down to just 2, by reducing the number of doctor visits I make each year, and by reducing my number of ER visits. My weight is up from 92 pounds to 118.

Posted by gro4me on 06 Apr 09 11:01 AM EDT
My quality of life is greatly improved as well. I don't faint anymore. I am respected internationally as one of the best marijuana breeders in the world. I teach at medical school about thyroid cancer, hypocalcemia and radiation poisoning, and in the community I teach patients how to grow their own medical marijuana. I am involved in politics. And next year I'm going to be published in Ed Rosenthal's Big Book of Buds. Marijuana use has not hurt my drive or intelligence or competitive spirit. I fight for legalization because I believe that as long as people can go to jail over pot, medical marijuana patients will always be in danger from both cops and robbers: robbers will always be after a substance that due to its illegallity will always be worth its weight in gold, and cops will always be frantic to "prove" that the patient is "faking" or "not sick enough" for medical marijuana. 20 million people admit to using marijuana on national surveys. It is time to stop criminalizng this segment of our society, especially since these laws are used primarily to discriminate against minorities and the poor.

Posted by gro4me on 06 Apr 09 11:01 AM EDT
Besides, Priohibition isn't working. SAMHSA surveys show that 30% of American high school senoirs had tried marijuana at least once in their lives in 1969. After 40 years of Drug War, last year 50% of high school seniors reported trying marijuana. That is a policy failure. Prohibition has not worked since Eve and the Apple.

Posted by Adrianne on 06 Apr 09 11:33 AM EDT
Prohibition may not work in the sense that it stops people from using marijuana altogether but it does work in the sense that fewer people try it and fewer people become regular users of it than if it was legal. So, in that sense I think that prohibition does work, it it perfect? No, but legalizing it is NOT an option.

Posted by gro4me on 06 Apr 09 12:05 PM EDT
Adrianne, the statistics I just sited prove you wrong. Prohibition has caused more teens than ever to try marijuana and become regular users. Then there are the Drug Availability Steering Committee Reports that have also indicated a massive explosion in domestic production in the last 7 years.

Posted by stopthehate on 06 Apr 09 12:31 PM EDT
A lot of B.S. and opinion stated as "facts" here, and a lot of predictions about the future based on flimsy analogies. So this guy "knows" in advance exactly how powerful and what a mj lobby would do, and therefore no money would be saved? How about the billions wasted incarcerating people who pose no threat to society? And their lives, wasted rotting in prison, when they are otherwise contributing members, are of no matter? And the hemp growers saving the environment by greatly reducing the amount of logging and deforestation for paper products that could be of superior hemp? As well as hemp fabric? If alcohol users had the option of instead using legal pot to relax (and people do need stress relievers), there would be much less violence and destruction.

Posted by brubin on 06 Apr 09 12:40 PM EDT
amsterdam has proven that legalization of weed did not increase cannabis use! this faulty statement is in fact not proven!what has the war on drugs done for stopping illegal drug use.in the 60's drug interdiction and illegalization did not work. guess what. it still doe's not work. after hundreds of billions of dollars spent,we are in the same situation!

Posted by Bill Godshall on 06 Apr 09 12:57 PM EDT
As one who succesfully campaigned to increase cigarette and alcohol taxes (which have significantly reduced consumption), to reduce tobacco marketing to youth, and to ban smoking in public indoor areas, I ask Jim Gogek and other prohibitionists if they (to be consistent) also advocate cigarette and alcohol prohibition (instead of current taxation and regulation)? Drug prohibitionists may enjoy raising taxes to lock millions of drug users/sellers in cages, destroying their careers and families, and watching totally innocent people gunned down in gang wars, but rationale people prefer responsible drug policies over ideologic extremism.

Posted by qkruse@gmail.com on 06 Apr 09 01:45 PM EDT
Hmmmm....that supposes that an awful lot of marijuana smokers - unproductive all - would move to the state with the next to the highest unemployment level in the country. I don't know where the author of this piece lives, but up here in Northern California we have pretty much normalized to having weed grown and available.... It was really seductive to kids in the eighties and until the mid nineties....now it has lost much of its appeal....except perhaps for the kids who would have been bent on bending the rules anyway... Education is our absolutely best deterrent....Education is where we should put our tax dollars; perhaps the taxes we collect from marijuana like the tobacco settlement tax.... We have been at this entirely too long for the fear mongers to have any real currency...at least up here in Nirvana, USA

Posted by stopthehate on 06 Apr 09 03:07 PM EDT
California Does Not Need Anymore Extremist Prohibitionists spewing faulty, dangerous opinions.

Posted by maxwood on 06 Apr 09 08:36 PM EDT
"Marijuana intoxication means cognitive impairment, grandiosity, short-term memory loss, difficulty in carrying out complex mental processes and impaired judgment. It severely hurts your ability to perform at school and work. It saps initiative and drive. It increases confusion. In other words, it makes you stupid." "Intoxication": caused by carbon monoxide and other toxins which result from hot-burning overdose "joints" used because they are easy to hide from the prohibitionist cop. Once legal, the herb would be used moderately in vaporizers. "Grandiosity"= ambition and desire to promote reforestation. "Short term memory loss": code name for long-term episodic associative performance memory (LEAP). "Complex mental processes": code-name for obedient bureaucratic busywork. "Perform at school and work" = suck up to autocratic teacher/boss. "Saps initiative and drive" = makes you cautious and secretive for fear of getting caught.

Posted by Kayla on 06 Apr 09 09:05 PM EDT
I have studied the War on Drugs and specifically marijuana laws all through out my college career. An increase in use is a short term effect but the long term effects would help our situation way more than it would hurt it. Marijuana is less dangerous than tobacco or alcohol (both legal drugs). There has never been a reported overdose. Other countries that have decriminalized marijuana have a lower number of users than the US has currently. There is also no difference in use in Australia between the territories that have it decriminalized and those who do not. If the US or CA were to decriminalize marijuana they would actually save money because over half of drug arrests are for simple possession of marijuana and these petty crimes fill our justice system and our prisons. 57% of inmates in prisons are because of the drug war. This number has not decreased since the war started, which is what it originally set out to do. Prohibition did not work in the 1920s and it does not work now. We need to learn this and stop spending billions of dollars on the useless war and put it towards prevention, education, and treatment programs.

Posted by Becky on 06 Apr 09 09:59 PM EDT
Why can't people use medicinal marijuana in the pill form, such as Marinol, which reportedly doesn't cause intoxication? If people really want to use it for pain management, etc., then smoking illegal marijuana won't be an issue--unless they really just want the high from it after all. After years of being a tx provider, I've come to the conclusion that it's easier to treat other chemical dependencies than it is to treat cannabis dependence! And yes, it DOES cause withdrawal symptoms, albeit protracted rather than acute symptoms, which keep people engaged in the cravings/using cycle much longer.

Posted by gro4me on 07 Apr 09 05:10 PM EDT
Becky, marinol does cause intoxication. It is about the same as smoking a joint of really bad mexican weed. Marinol is not a pain management drug. It is for nausea, and it doesn't work as well as smoked marijuana. There have been 6 State sponsored studies that showed that 70-90% of patients get better relief from smoked marijuana than from marinol or any other antiemetic. You can review the studies at www.medmjscience.org

Posted by HappyMedium??? on 08 Apr 09 03:11 AM EDT
Because we all know that our children would be so much safer with an alcohol market controlled by cocaine and heroin traffickers? Yes, that will be good public health. Of course, our prisons will be able to handle all the people trafficking booze. Or maybe there is a happy medium between allowing drug cartels running the show or the big corporations and lobbyists selling alcohol, marijuana and tobacco out of 7/11 stores.

Posted by jane on 08 Apr 09 03:38 PM EDT
All I know is that people who suffer from pain will do ANYTHING to get relief. It is a faulty system. But when the pain is getting worse and worse and you have a disease that can be relieved by marij, you don't care about the politics. I am in the shoes of a chronic pain patient and I suffer every day. I don't use but I would if it were allowed. Pain pills are a trap and I work really hard to keep my tolerance down and keep them working. I would love to be able to cut out some of them and not suffer the 10+ pain I get every single day from this blood disease.

Posted by aj on 17 Apr 09 10:03 AM EDT
NORML just posted SAMHDA's employment statistics for pot smokers. Pot smokers have higher education levels, higher employment rates, and higher wages than the average american. Pot smokers are functioning members of american society. Actually, these new statistics show they are BETTER functioning members of american society. Pot smokers are actully RAISING the national education and employment averages... I think those statistics alone put an end to any discussion of the sterotypical listless "stoner" behavior. What is the next pro-prohibition argument to debunk?

Posted by Cliff Schaffer on 25 Apr 09 09:17 AM EDT
Jim Gogek needs to read some history. The worst teen drinking epidemic we have ever had happened during alcohol prohibition. Prohibition was passed with a campaign of “Save the Children from Alcohol”. Within five years there were record numbers of teens in hospitals and courts for alcohol problems. The average age at which people started drinking dropped dramatically. Schools had to cancel dances because so many kids showed up drunk. Kids were selling alcohol on school campuses. Early supporters of prohibition turned against it because prohibition made it easier than ever for their kids to get booze. Prohibition was repealed with a campaign of “Save the Children from Prohibition.” See http://druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults.htm Historically speaking, the biggest single cause of drug epidemics among US children is anti-drug campaigns. There are numerous examples, including the teen drinking epidemic during alcohol prohibition, and the rise of LSD, speed, and glue sniffing in the 1960s. Anyone interested in the subject will find details in Licit and Illicit Drugs at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/cu/cumenu.htm

Posted by Cliff Schaffer on 25 Apr 09 09:24 AM EDT
I have a simple question for Mr. Gogek: Can you name any significant study of the drug laws in the last 100 years that agreed with you? See the collection under Major Studies of Drugs and Drug Policy at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer That collection includes the largest studies of the drug laws ever done by the governments of the US, the UK, Canada, and Australia, among others. They all concluded that the marijuana laws were based on ignorance and nonsense. Marijuana was outlawed for two major reasons. The first was because “All Mexicans are crazy and marijuana is what makes them crazy.” The second was the fear that heroin addiction would lead to the use of marijuana – exactly the opposite of the modern “gateway” idea. One doctor testified in court, under oath, that marijuana would make your fangs grow six inches long and drip with blood. He also said that, when he tried it, it turned him into a bat. He was the only doctor in the US who thought marijuana should be illegal, so he was appointed US Official Expert on marijuana where he served for 25 years. See the history of the laws at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/whiteb1.htm

Posted by NiceGuy on 28 Apr 09 12:00 AM EDT
If California needs more college educated, maybe Financial Aid shouldn't be refused to simple drug offenders. While someone who murders can get out of jail and recieve it. Its as simple as laws prohibiting marijuana are far more dangerous than the drug itself.

Posted by Matthew on 28 Apr 09 03:46 AM EDT
I am an eagle scout, yet according to you, the fact that I use marijuana makes me a loser. I smoked for three years before I recieved my eagle scout award and graduated in the top 1/4 of my class at a very competitive high school. But I guess if smoking marijuana makes me a loser, than I must be a giant loser, because I smoke every day. (of course I don't steal or beg or deal drugs, so how do I pay for it? Oh well, what does it matter, since I am of course so blitzed off my mind as to be rendered utterly incoherent.)

Posted by Matthew on 28 Apr 09 03:57 AM EDT
Oh yea, and to all of you who say it is easier for youths to get alcohol or cigarettes because it is legal, tell that to my 15 year brother who deals weed yet always bugs me to buy him cigarettes.(which I don't do, thank you very much!) The kid started smoking in junior high school, way before he ever tried alcohol. Tell him that alcohol is easier to get, and he will laugh right in your ignorant face.

Posted by Relaxed on 28 Apr 09 04:14 AM EDT
Seems to reason that Drug Treatment employees would support prohibition, after all they depend on the increased 'referrals' that prohibition provides them; not to mention these people see the worst of addiction and most have dealt with addiction issues themselves. But prohibition is NOT the answer, it turns sick people into criminals, even if that sickness is addiction, why would anyone (especially a health care professional) support imprisoning a sick person over treatment? This is not a very compassionate view point from someone so concerned with protecting people from themselves. Hey Percy I agree we should learn a lesson from the past... HELLO, PROHIBITION leads to increased demand, higher potencies, NO regulation, no legal recourse for disputes, higher prices, riskier behavior, less likely to seek help when needed and CREATES CRIME. Take a look at Portugal, since they have stopped treating drugs as a legal matter and started treating as a health issue they have seen a dramatic decrease in use and demand. Kind of goes against most propaganda prohibitionist throw against the wall to scare the public.

Posted by Stoner Over-Achiever on 28 Apr 09 10:10 AM EDT
"With marijuana, you get intoxicated every time you use it." --Blatantly false, you can choose your dosage just like you can with alcohol. Marijuana intoxication and alcohol intoxication may be different, but both are bad for society. Then why does one get Super Bowl Ads and the other gets jail time? "Marijuana intoxication means cognitive impairment, grandiosity, short-term memory loss, difficulty in carrying out complex mental processes and impaired judgment." Marijuana does make it difficult to carry out complex mental processes in very high doses, but if you're just watching TV until you fall asleep, what's wrong with that? Also, grandiosity is almost the opposite of what marijuana does to you. Most likely, it makes you quiet and unassuming. It severely hurts your ability to perform at school and work. It saps initiative and drive. It increases confusion. In other words, it makes you stupid. IT DOESNT SAP INITIATIVE AND DRIVE. I GO TO SCHOOL AND WORK FIVE TIMES A WEEK, IM NEVER LATE AND HAVENT MISSED A DAY ALL YEAR. I KNOW PLENTY OF LEGAL ALCOHOLICS WHO CAN'T SAY THE SAME Michael Phelps is the greatest Olympic WINNER ever and he enjoys a recreational puff!

Posted by An Educated American on 28 Apr 09 10:56 AM EDT
Something thats more destructive to society then marijuana is Jim Gogek's opinionated reporting. Allow me to educate you people. I'm a HEAVY marijuana user. I, as a user, work a full time job which requires mandatory overtime so I sometimes put in 60+ hours a week. I go to work EVERY DAY. I arrive at work on time every day. I perform my duties to the best of my ability every day. I'm very well liked by members of management and have been granted two raises in pay in less then one year of service there as a equiptment operator. Make no mistake, I'm the total definition of a stoner, so this whole notion that stoners are loosers who are failures in life is just absurd, and insulting. I make sure on a weekly basis that my bills are paid on time, and that everything has been taken care of financially b4 I decide to buy a fat sack of some good bud.

Posted by An Educated American on 28 Apr 09 11:06 AM EDT
The fact of matter is prohibition doesn't work. The people who want to do drugs, are doing drugs, and have been since the 60's, nothing is going to stop that. I can get marijuana as easily as I can walk down to my local mini market and pick up a gallon of icetea, its just THAT EASY, which means that for your children, its just THAT EASY. Drug dealers don't check ID to see if your of age so this whole notion that drug use will increase in teens if marijuana was made legal is just absurd! I can clearly remember as a youth that it was MUCH easier to buy a bag of bud off of one of my friends then it was to walk into a state store, not being of age, tryin to get a bottle of Captain Morgan, that just wasn't gonna fly :). The fact of the matter is this, if you honestly care about your children, you'd honestly care about putting these drug dealers out of business. The fact of the matter is, if you want to CONTROL something, you have to REGULATE it, end of story.

Posted by fred on 28 Apr 09 12:39 PM EDT
I don't like it, so you cain't do it ! Sorry, but that's your real bottom line.

Posted by Carol on 29 Apr 09 12:05 AM EDT
Cannabis is a valuable herb that contains many beneficial anti-inflammatory and antioxidant compounds. It has been used for thousands of years because it apparently makes people feel better. It is not physiologically addictive, nor is it toxic. Please note that alcohol is quite toxic. Cannabis doesn't "make" anyone "stupid". Being a closed minded, propaganda disseminator makes one "stupid".

Posted by Spiderman on 29 Apr 09 12:44 PM EDT
Those who compose articals such as this have been Brain washed to think and believe complete fabrications of the truth. Reading this would be similar to reading a 3rd grader's paper on why Santa Claus is real. Hey Gogek! Michael Philips is one of MANY ambitious pot smokers. Your Ideas are tired and old, thank God most Americans are getting the clue, how about you?

Posted by Josh on 30 Apr 09 12:25 PM EDT
In my area of the country Marijuana may as well be laying on your front porch like the morning newspaper. It's available everywhere. Except where it should be... A store where it can be taxed, and used to help our economic destruction. I use marijuana daily. I am a personal trainer and I have a full-time 8:30-5 Mon-Fri Office job where I run a 40 year old company with over 500,000.00 in yearly revenue. I guess I am a loser, a stoner, and a very big reason why this country is in turmoil. I agree completely that regulating alcohol has made it so hard for younger people to drink. Do they still do it? Of course. But they can't buy it from the guy on the corner. And If that guy was selling liquor on the corner... He'd be arrested. Make it so with marijuana. Sell it in stores... And those guys on the street will fade away quicker than you think. Regulation not Erradication. Put me on the road with a million "pot heads" rather than one alcoholic.

Posted by Brinna on 05 May 09 02:37 PM EDT
For all you prohibitionists out there: Read the CATO Inst. report on how drug decriminalization has worked in Portugal. No increased drug use. Plummeting HIV infections. Increased treatment success. Greater compliance by addicts. Reduced crime rates. In fact, all the "fear mongering" projected by prohibitionists in that country never came to pass. Can you stand the truth?

Posted by Verde on 18 Jun 09 10:39 AM EDT
Awesome article! LOL marijuana will only spread HIV, what happens to a girl's inhabitions when she is under the influence of marijuana, she is more likely to have sex. And if she bought pot instead of protection, thanks to our economy, she has just increased her chances of spreading HIV. Well at least she will have pot to comfort her as she is dying.

Posted by Verde on 18 Jun 09 11:08 AM EDT
If we legalize marijuana, we might as well legalize all drugs. Most of us use the internet to diagnose our medical problems anyway, we don't need doctors, right? The doctors will just tell you that is wrong, because they make all the money. If it isn't right for all drugs then it isn't right for marijuana. Most chronic marijuana users get up and smoke a bowl just to get their day started, not because they are in pain, not for any other reason than they love how it makes them feel. The feeling is high and that is not the state of mind we like to meet people in. And when they don't get high in the morning they are in a bad mood and treat people like crap and all they can do is think about how nd when they will be able to get high again. I know from my experiences with pot smokers. I've seen domestic violence over who took the last joint. Gimme a break, legalize it?

Posted by easy tiger on 12 Jul 09 07:45 PM EDT
During an economic catastrophe, such as now, there is no way to logically argue that any amount of money used for anti-marijuana propaganda is well spent...and a side note the next time you hear an ad (i.e. ambien, zoloft, even allergy medication) about a wonderful DRUG that can help you for a specific problem try and follow how many incredible side effects each of them have. Here is to poppin them pills...

Posted by Dwayne on 30 Jul 09 08:56 AM EDT
Verde, I am all for it let the dopers kill them selves off and we wont have a drug problem. POT dose not KILL

Posted by ytr on 28 Sep 09 12:54 AM EDT
legalization of pot has been historically proved to decrease use. period. look at portugal. im not saying i want more people doing drugs im saying i want the drug lords to stop making money of off them. Somebody is going to be making money either way and i would rather it be my government than a violent drug cartel

Posted by kyle on 08 Oct 09 07:50 PM EDT
your view of marijuana is cynical, biased and narrow-minded, you say alcohol and marijuana are bad for society, then you probably go home and crack open a beer. Hypocrisy. besides prohibition didnt work with alcohol, what makes you think its working with marijuana? and also, it wouldn't be easier for teens to get if it was legal. if it was regulated you would have to be 21 or older to buy it, besides its much easier to get it from a dealer, and they dont care how old you are. they'll sell it just the same. you using your own personal views to twist up the truth, stop bashing something you have no understanding of. do you even know why marijuana is illegal in the first place? its not because of the drug at all, it because of its counter part "hemp"

Posted by steve the plumber on 09 Oct 09 06:08 PM EDT
let me say just one thing',i'm 46yr's old now,when i was 3 yr's old i jumped from a bath tub,where my grand mother was giving me a bath,to follow my mother,who had just left home, to go to the corner market,i was hit by a station wagon going in excess of, 30 mikes per hour,to make a long story short, i was in the hospital for three month's with a lot of damage done to me, now until the time that i was 32yr's old i lived in a semi retarded state,this is when i had my first experience, with cannibus.a friend of mine smoked a joint with me, and all that i can tell you is that it helped me to become a lot more , intelligent, and able to deal with life a lot better,i have not done this every day but just once in a while, the only bad thing about this plant, is that it is illegal,and this need's to be changed!after all we are all really headed to the same end,a casket! let's enjoy life the best we can ,while we can.no one like's that thought ,but it's the only real truth.

Posted by Randy Gardner, Phd. on 23 Nov 09 03:13 PM EST
Ok, marijuana prohibition has only increased entry level "sale positions" into gangs. If you put the $22 billion dollars used to stop marijuana in your state, you could most likly eliminate cocaine, heroin, and meth. Marijuana does NOT make you permanently stupid, it replaces your thought process with creativity for a period of time. Our president admits to bieng a pothead while he was in college, so wheres your proof that it slows cognitive development? People like you need to smoke a joint so you can think about the brodeur picture. And support legalizing God's natural medicine.

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