Stay Informed

Sign up for news & alerts

Already signed up?
Login here

take action
For every $1 states spend dollar sign on substance misuse and addiction, 94 cents go to shovel up the consequences instead of for treatment and prevention. TELL YOUR LEGISLATORS

What Can I Do?



Continuing Education
Free online courses for addiction counselors LEARN ONLINE

Get Help
Need alcohol or drug help for yourself or someone else? GET HELP

 

Perfect Storm for Marijuana Legalization?
April 16, 2009

Share Share Email
Email
Print
Print
SubscribeSubscribe
News Summary

The economic downturn, efforts to redirect law-enforcement and court and prison resources, and a need to grapple with the drug-related violence perpetrated by Mexico's drug cartels are all fueling an examination of the merits of legalizing, regulating and taxing marijuana, the San Francisco Chronicle reported April 12.

This confluence of social and economic factors is prompting a political change in attitudes, experts say. Statements by pundits like Glenn Beck of Fox News and CNN's Jack Cafferty, each of whom has publicly questioned the billions spent each year fighting the war on drugs, have added to the national debate.

"It's a combination of all these things coming together at once and producing that 'aha' moment," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project.

A recent Rasmussen poll showed 40 percent of Americans support the legalization of marijuana, with 46 percent opposed and 14 percent saying they are unsure. A new California poll by Oakland EMC Research revealed that, for the first time, a majority of state voters (54 percent) say the drug should be legalized, compared with 39 percent opposed.

"Part of the explanation is people's good feelings about medical marijuana," said Alex Evans, president and founder of EMC. Evans also pointed to Baby Boomers' "own personal experience with cannabis" and their belief that "there's not much difference between that and alcohol . . . It is leading them to support more of a tax-and-regulate attitude."

Opponents have expressed concerns that making marijuana legal will compound addiction issues, that marijuana is a gateway drug that leads to use of harder drugs, and that legalization would send the wrong message to children.

But some California lawmakers contend that it makes sense to at least investigate marijuana regulation and taxation. "To continue to outlaw it and not tax it is really to keep one's head in the sand, as if we can pretend and it will go away," said state Senator Mark Leno (D-San Francisco). "Minimally, I'm hoping we take a look at the billions of dollars we've spent on the war on drugs: Have we gotten our money's worth?"

COMMENTS ON THIS ARTICLE:

Posted by corinne obrian on 17 Apr 09 11:07 AM EDT
I am a 73 year old woman who has smoked marijuana for 40 years and have found this drug beneficial for my well being. It is helpful with my depression, has no after effects, is not addictive, and is generally a very benine and helpful substance. It should be legalized. I will keep smoking it and growing it regardless. At $400 a OUNCE on the market, the government should step in and regulate and tax marijuana.

Posted by Dmac on 17 Apr 09 01:20 PM EDT
Funny when you hear someone say they "have been smoking for 40 years" and then turn around and say "it's not addictive"!? There are more people in rehab for marijuana than any other drug. Please learn the facts before you vote.

Posted by Diane Kopperman on 17 Apr 09 02:12 PM EDT
At $400 an ounce, why would you spend the money if you WEREN'T addicted? This is one of the primary concerns regarding "medical" marijuana: people are smoking it for other than medical reasons (i.e., just to get high) and there is no mechanism for ensuring that it is consumed for its intended purpose (i.e., medicine).

Posted by Randy Dallas on 17 Apr 09 03:36 PM EDT
Honestly people, I'm a medical marijuana patient in Colorado and I'll admit that I do use medicine for recreational purposes from day to day as well, however; if I decided to stop tomorrow my body wouldn't be in pain and I'm not going to try and steel and rob to get more. The only 'addiction' you talk about is that fact that my 'mind' enjoys the relaxed state that my medicine puts me in, that's it only the 'weak minded' get addicted to this drug. (and what about coffee? shouldn't we outlaw that too, I mean it's addictive right? - lol didn't you have your dose of caffeine today? hey silly rabbit! what about tobacco and alcohol too!) And most importantly Corinne $400 is a little high don't you think? I supply meds to my patients for $200-250 an ounce because I mean... it's only a plant ;) let's try and let go of our pride and greed for once and realize, God could make this plant grow all over for FREE if the world's governments' didn't try and stand in God's way :(

Posted by not a marijuana smoker on 18 Apr 09 10:57 PM EDT
Come on guys give me a break. Marijuana can help some people and not everyone is an addict. Why should we continue to support the drug lords?? Marijuana is less harmful than any drug available. Marijuana users are not a danger to our society. Its better to prescribe Marijuana than some of the other addictive drugs with the long list of dangerous side effects. It will also free up some room in the court houses and jails. It will also help our struggling economy. Legallize it.

Posted by Donald B Parsons on 19 Apr 09 02:39 PM EDT
I think if Dmac checked a little closer would find that more people are in rehab due to marijuana because of alternative sentencing ( given the choice of jail or rehab ). I would say to Diane that she should look at the mechanisms that keep people taking Prescription poisons for their intended purpose. More prescription drugs are being abused these days and that junk can KILL. Being ADDICTED and ENJOYING anything are two different issues.

Posted by Joe Anticoli on 19 Apr 09 11:10 PM EDT
It's encouraging to read some excellent, heads-up discussion on the topic. Clarity informs the process when it's directed toward the truth. And the truth is, Prohibition is immoral by definition because its two main infrastructures, Drug Suppliers & Drug-Law Enforcement, operate in a vacuum. They suck in valuable national resources to serve their own ends; ends that are clearly capital. All attempts to shroud the truth in self-rightous garb like "drugs are bad" or "war on drugs" is a large part of the problem. Remember what happened in the 30's when $14 million dollars from Standard Oil's Rockefeller funded the Women's Temperance Movement effectively demonizing alcohol? We got 30,000 illegal speakeasies, the death of the alcohol-powered engine, and the birth of Gasoline. Treat the scourge of addiction like any public health problem; medicalize it. END PROHIBITION NOW!

Posted by Easyrider on 20 Apr 09 09:24 AM EDT
Dmac should follow his own advice... The research shows that of adults who smoke marijuana, approximately 1 to 2 in 10 will develop an abuse problem with it. That means that 8-9 out of ten won't. And as to $400/oz, how much would Zoloft cost her if she had no insurance?

Posted by wanbli on 20 Apr 09 09:45 AM EDT
OH MY GOD !!! Evans also pointed to Baby Boomers' "own personal experience with cannabis" and their belief that "there's not much difference between that and alcohol . . SO SO TRUE !!!!!!! concerns that making marijuana legal will compound addiction issues, that marijuana is a gateway drug that leads to use of harder drugs. Hats off to the addicts, alcoholics and potential addicts that may bring about the legalization. Ya think we have problems now ????

Posted by Alexb on 20 Apr 09 10:29 AM EDT
I have a question - Randy Dallas says it puts him "in a relaxed state." I have been clean and sober for 27 years, and marijuana never put me in a relaxed state. One hit and I was intoxicated (stoned, loaded, mood-altered). One drink of alcohol never did that. What is the experience of others? Do some users use it only to relax (which is definitely true of alcohol for non-alcoholics)? Or is it by nature intoxicating at any dose? Or is that only if smoked? Do true medicinal users not get loaded?

Posted by John on 20 Apr 09 10:38 AM EDT
As a person who works with young people who now have no ambition and see life as sitting on the couch, smoking and playing video games. I have to say no to legalization. If we do, you might as well throw in the towel on these kids.

Posted by Swooper on 20 Apr 09 11:04 AM EDT
So much reefer madness! Wanbli trots out the repeatedly-disproven "gateway drug" argument in order to bolster his unsupportable position. The only reason it can even be remotely said that there is a connection between cannabis smoking and hard drugs is this - drug dealers are not going to ask for a minor's id before selling. Dealers in cannabis sometimes deal in other drugs. Exposure to these other drugs and learning that they've been lied to about pot leads to experimentation with hard drugs. Might as well say alcohol, tobacco, or caffeine are gateway drugs as well.

Posted by DJ on 20 Apr 09 11:21 AM EDT
I'm impressed with alexb's question, "What is the experience of others?" This is KEY whether considering tobacco, coffee, chocolate, casual sex, gambling, or anything else about which humans can - and should - make their own choices. We are individuals, and pot IS similar to alcohol in that it has wildly different effects (both dangers and benefits) on different people who use it. Legalization and regulation only makes sense, for so MANY reasons including safety, economics, and personal freedom.

Posted by Bonnie B. on 20 Apr 09 11:56 AM EDT
I commend Corinne for her honesty and for shedding some much needed light on the reality of smoking pot and its' benefits. I too, smoke it in moderation - like alcohol - on weekends or just to chill out after a hectic day, etc. It calms my PMS symptoms - no need to reach for Zanax for stress or anxiety (highly addictive) or other synthetic presciption drugs to do the trick. It calms an upset stomach - hence the use for Crones disease and nausea caused by chemo. MS patients also benefit greatly from its' sedative and pain relieving effects. And, oh my God, if it makes you feel good while it helps alleviate some of these symptoms associated with these terrible diseases, so be it! No crime or sin here - it's only the illegality of this drug that makes it problematic. I don't recommend kids use it in school, or people drive or do anything important while under its' influence - same as alcohol - but its benefits far outweigh those of alcohol, which causes more aggressive behavior, violence, car accidents and addiction than MJ ever will. You can walk away from MJ, anytime you really want to (unlike cigarettes), and I'm sure Corinne knows that, she just prefers not to.

Posted by qkruse@gmail.com on 20 Apr 09 12:16 PM EDT
Marijuana needs to be legalized! Period...Will some abuse it? Of Course. Will some continue to grow it to avoid the taxes? Without a doubt. Will some try it who have not yet tried it....well sure. Has prohibition worked by any measure? Heck no! What we have done is create a powerful Criminal Justice industry by distracting our police, and over-burdened our courts, probation, and penal system, and in far too many cases trivialized our rehabilitation programs. Rehabilitation should never be used to enforce public policy...unless of course we want to continue to follow the Russian model. All of the aforementioned doesn't even begin to contemplate the unconscionable pain and suffering that has been inflicted not only on the marijuana law offender, but that person's family and community as well. Enough of Annslinger's Folly!

Posted by Paula D. Gordon on 20 Apr 09 12:28 PM EDT
Part 1: The view that marijuana is harmless or even “relatively harmless” is a view that is widely shared. That a view is widely shared does not mean that it is a sound view or that it it has any basis in knowledge or fact. Of course, the fact that marijuana is a plant that is widely available in nature has nothing to do with the potential harm that it can do if it is smoked or ingested. To assume otherwise is to engage in vague or magical thinking. It is common knowledge that there are plants and substances of all kinds that are harmful if ingested. For instance, hemlock is deadly as are some mushrooms. Smoking anything has some harmful consequences.

Posted by Porter93 on 20 Apr 09 12:34 PM EDT
Only a fool would legalize this junk. Only a fool would think that we could tax and regulate it. This drug is a black market special, and suppression will continue no matter what. The real problem is with folks who cannot distinguish between smoking, to get loaded and addicted, and using pharmaceutical companies to isolate the helpful cannabinoids and use them without all the other crud that folks should NOT be ingesting. I am constantly amazed at how many people fall for the manure planted by the Marijuana Policy Alliance without looking at the science. Why not follow the lead of Israel on this?

Posted by Phrank on 20 Apr 09 01:16 PM EDT
To those who consider $400 an ounce proof that those who smoke are addicted, please keep in mind that an ounce, or 28 grams, or perhaps 84 average joints, is a very large amount. Personally, an ounce would last me, a very moderate weekend smoker, about two years! For comparison, a light drinker, enjoying Yuengling a day would spend $300 a year, a Benjamin more than my cannabis vice, and my half-pack-a-day habit, after this new tax, is about $1200 a year. John who works with troubled kids, has it occurred to you that there are a lot of kids you don't see? If you and your colleagues saw every pot-smoking kid on earth, that would be one thing. You've got to imagine, though, that there are many, many kids who smoke pot and don't have to see you. It's the same fallacy that makes people nervous about flying airplanes, because you never hear about the airplanes that DON'T crash. And don't forget that kids are going to find it harder to buy pot from a 7-11 than their local dealer, and when capitalism lets the 7-11 sell it for cheaper, those dealers are going to have to get an honest job.

Posted by Bonnie B. on 20 Apr 09 01:34 PM EDT
Paula, "What kind of nation do we want America to be?" How about this: One that does not allow big pharma to sell out an entire generation of adolescents by making their highly addictive, deadly pain killers seem "safe" while making them available to young people, whose brains have not yet fully developed enough to truly appreciate addiction and its' horrendous consequences. One that forces these same drug companies to EDUCATE and WARN a misinformed and uneducated population of the current raging opioid addiction epidemic in our nation - that started with our kids using their pain killers (out of OUR OWN medicine cabinets) and ends with Heroin, because they can no longer afford the pain killers, once addicted. Marijuana definitely causes some harm to the normal functioning of the developing bran - but it is NOTHING compared to the impairment and devastation that is caused by the horrific addiction to Heroin, OxyContin and all of the other opioids, cocaine, etc, and lest we forget - alcohol - the legal and accepted drug of choice by most. Legal or not - drugs should be judged by their potential for addiction and deaths - check your statistics on that.

Posted by Paula D. Gordon on 20 Apr 09 07:14 PM EDT
Bonnie B.: Thank you for the question. I address that question in much of my writing. Most of my writing that focuses on the need to address many different aspects of the drug problem can be found at http://groups.google.com/group/GordonDrugAbusePrevention/ . Other writing of mine that bears problems that need to be addressed if we are to realize the promise of America can be found at http://gordonhomeland.com and http://www.jhu.edu/pgordon. My dissertation, Public Administration in the Public Interest, is posted at the jhu.edu website. I hope you find that this material is responsive to your question.

Posted by Rob H. on 21 Apr 09 06:46 PM EDT
Are you SURE you're "not a marijuana smoker?" Please explain how legalizing pot will free up space in our courts and jails. You get a TICKET for possession, you pay a fine. No court time wasted, no jail space. Only drug DEALERS are actually taken into custody...along with burglars, thieves, drunk drivers, and violent criminals who are also charged with possession. Don't buy the lie. Pot doesn't waste any court time or jail space.

Posted by Rob H. on 21 Apr 09 06:52 PM EDT
Swooper: "So much reefer madness!" Please do at least 30 seconds worth of research. Your 'reefer madness' defense died 20 years ago. Every single study of the use of drugs by young people shows a common thread among those who use "harder" drugs; most smoked marijuana first. Did smoking a joint make them use other drugs? No. Was their judgement impaired while high...leading to bad decisions about using higher-risk drugs? Absolutly. Welcome to the age of enlightenment.

Posted by Henry Steinberger on 21 Apr 09 07:02 PM EDT
On the day that the Supreme Court rules on whether it's OK to strip search a 13 year old girl for possible possession of a contraband double strength Tylenol (withOUT Codeine) - we can certain stop the madness. And let's remember Rob H. that the most deadly and addictive drug that kids get into is CIGARETTES and that does not happen while they are high. Alcohol is way more popular among kids and that impairs judgement and can lead to "trying" hard drugs. But we are not banning adults from alcohol to protect these kids, and please note that "trying" even a hard drug, does not usually lead to addiction. Biological predisposition, cultural acceptance, and above all the kid looking for something to get high on for some reason that we rarely acknowledge has a lot more to do with it. As I said, cigarettes are way more addictive and in the end kill more people than any and all of the other drugs and alcohol put together. Let's stop the war on poor people catching a buzz. We all know that when a rich person's kid gets caught they don't get the same time for the crime as a poor person's kid - and this is even more obscene when it's a phony crime like smoking weed.

Posted by maxwood on 21 Apr 09 08:05 PM EDT
Legalization will reduce cannabis usage in gross numbers because it will remove the legalistic risk from possessing non-wasteful moderate-use equipment such as vaporizers, E-cigarette with THC-loaded cartridge, and single-toke one-hitters. Concerned persons will no longer face a personal risk when they approach smokers to promote or market these equipment reforms and eliminate the hot-burning overdose "joint" beloved of tobackgo companies.

Posted by Rob H. on 21 Apr 09 09:29 PM EDT
Mr. Steinberger, I'm not sure how you determined that tobacco is the most addictive gateway drug. But I can tell you that marijuana's impacts aren't fully documented, as many fatal traffic fatalities caused by pot aren't documented as such. Dead people with THC in their system don't make headlines, but drunk drivers do. Additionally, one-third MORE kids in Juvenile Hall smoke pot than smoke cigarettes. (see fig. 3 on page 6 here: http://www.sandag.org/uploads/publicationid/publicationid_1373_8259.pdf ) That's local data, but national figures run along the same lines. Additionally, check Table 6 on page 9, to find out more about how youth perceive the harm of pot..and how it affects use. When the perception of harm goes down, use goes up. And decreasing use among young people is the whole point....and telling them that it's just a weed, or "medicine" chips away at the perception of harm. It's time to stop playing the "pot's not as bad as alcohol" game, and admit that pot is bad ("...mmKay? ) It's carcenogenic, it can be addictive, it exacerbates a long list of mental health disorders. Pot's not bad because it's illegal, it's illegal because it's bad.

Posted by Paula D. Gordon on 22 Apr 09 02:49 PM EDT
Rob H. Thanks for this very interesting comments and for the report that you mentioned. The URL you provided did not work for me. Here is one that got me to the right place on the website: http://www.sandag.org/index.asp?subclassid=15&fuseaction=home.subclasshome . Which publication were you quoting from? Thanks again! pgordon@erols.com

Posted by Paula D. Gordon on 22 Apr 09 03:15 PM EDT
The remaining parts of my 20 Apr 09 12:28 PM EDT posting can now be found in file form at http://groups.google.com/group/GordonDrugAbusePrevention/. The entire posting is now entitled "The Harm Caused to Individuals and Society by the Use of Marijuana". I hope visitors to this listserve find the full posting helpful.

Posted by Phrank on 22 Apr 09 04:16 PM EDT
Rob H: Dead people with THC in their system doesn't really mean the same as dead people with alcohol in their system, either. The metabolites we test for, being lipid-soluble, remain in the body for much longer than the drug has any measurable effect on one's ability to function. If evidence of drinking lingered in your body for a month, almost every driver would test as DWI. I must also comment that you dismiss the argument that pot isn't as bad as alcohol, without actually addressing it. If you wish to outlaw something because it's bad for you, please address why marijuana is your target, as opposed to alcohol or tobacco. And please rebut the unrebutted claim that marijuana is less harmful than currently over-the-counter controlled substances.

Posted by kiddiecounselor on 22 Apr 09 05:22 PM EDT
Rob H., Well put. New research I have been reading from the Join Together website points to the fact that Marijuana may not be considered a "gateway drug" much longer because the "majority" of the people who smoke it continue to do so for relatively long periods and will smoke THC after ingesting other drugs to feel "normal." Does that not sound like an addiction? I do not like Pharms producing drugs that are harmful, but they are advantageous and medically necessary for some patients. Alcohol can be medicinal. And if read correctly some nicotene ingestion may not be harmful. It's how we use it. Would Salvia be the next "weed" we would have to consider in our list of "allowable drugs? It's okay to use maranol, the problem is to deeply inhale smoke from a "joint" causes physical damage! Alcohol causes severe damage, can we totally stop it's use or abuse, not until something to take it's place comes along. It's telling our youth that it is "bad for them" that keeps use down. Will we ever stop the abuse-addiction... I keep praying.

Posted by kiddiecounselor on 22 Apr 09 05:33 PM EDT
Oh, by the way Phrank, most people would not get DUI/DWI. Research shows that around 10% of college students drink 90% of the alcohol on campuses. A rather large percentage, 40% or more actually do no drinking or only drink on rare occassions. True, a lot of people would get DWI if it ETOH was long lasting. ANd most would still only be caught when the police knew they were out, it's like fishing, you go where the fish are supposed to be. Those drunk drivers are going to be where alcohol is the "norm", accepted. How many basketball, football or baseball fans need to be driving home after a game?

Posted by Kathleen on 24 Apr 09 02:06 PM EDT
The two most commonly used psychoactive drugs are the two that are legal - tobacco and alcohol. We have seen significant reductions in the the number of tobacco users by increasing the laws against tobacco use by limiting the areas where it can be legally used, and increasing the price. It does not seem logical to me that legalizing marijuana is going to help in any way. As an asthmatic, it is much easier to socialize w/out having to worry about the effects of exposing myself to tobacco smoke. As a teacher, I see fewer students who suffer from the effects of their parents smoking. Far fewer parents smoke tobacco today than the number who did twenty years ago. It would seem to me that legalizing marijuana is going to reverse these trends by exposing more people to the harmful effects of inhaling marijuana smoke.

Posted by Paula D. Gordon on 25 Apr 09 06:38 PM EDT
Some recent research re marijuana as a gateway drug: (The following is an excerpt from CESAR FAX at http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/cesarfax.asp April 20, 2009 Volume 18, Issue 15. 56% of Youths Who First Started Using Drugs in the Past Year Began with Marijuana; Around One-Fourth Started with Nonmedical Use of Prescription-Type Drugs An estimated 1.5 million youths ages 12 to 17—an average of more than 4,000 per day—used a drug other than alcohol for the first time in the past year, according to data from the 2007 National Survey on Drug Use and Health. The majority of youths reported that marijuana was the first drug they tried (56%), followed by prescription-type drugs used nonmedically (24%), and inhalants (17%). Very few youths reported that their first use of drugs involved hallucinogens or cocaine (see figure below). The relative distribution of first-drug used has remained consistent over the past five years... " End of quoted material

Posted by NiceGuy on 28 Apr 09 12:25 AM EDT
If you are on the side of marijuana being a gateway drug, and lets say it is for argument purposes, Why in the world would you want a drug dealer to be in control of it? As statistics show the Drug War has done virtually nothing to curb use. Alcohol abuse was most prevalent among teens when it was prohibited. So if your kid smokes some weed, he got from a drug dealer that didn't ID, he is then introduced to other drugs by the same dealer. If over the 30 years of the Drug War it had showed a significant impact, then yes the BILLIONS of dollars may be worth it, but it hasn't and a new approach is needed. Ex: Portugal and the Netherlands. Do the reasearch on those. Here's an analogy..If you tried to lose 10 lbs for 30 years and you never shed a single pound and you kept doing the same thing over and over. You'd be labeled a moron.

Posted by Matthew on 29 Apr 09 03:46 PM EDT
The marijuana as a gateway drug is only viable when marijuana is illegal. Think about it. Where do you get weed from? Drug dealers. Where do you other drugs from? Drug dealers. You don't get hard drugs from liquor stores. You won't get hard drugs from pot stores. Legalize it, and the drug dealers can't get our children to use their drugs. Oh yea, and how many children do you see buying alcohol from grocery/liquor stores? Legalize marijuana, and I guarantee that use by children will decrease. My 15 year old brother is a weed dealer because it is so easy for kids to get the stuff. Yet I'm the one he asks to buy cigarettes(haha, yea right kid). As to the statement that legal action has curbed cigarette smoking, I really think it was the spread of knowledge of the harms of smoking. I know cigarettes WILL kill me, so I don't smoke them. Not because of any type of legal action. Marijuana is illegal, and 20 million people smoke it still.

Posted by poppag50 on 08 May 09 12:16 PM EDT
Pot is a gateway drug because of the following reason. Because pot is illegal. The dealer is breaking the law. This same dealers sells other illegal drugs. He is a salesman, he upsales. The pot user is exposed and in most cases pressured to try harder drugs. Legalizing pot will reduce harder drug use not increase it! Wake Up America and make Marijuana Legal!

SUBMIT A COMMENT:

Note: Comments are now held for moderator approval. More info

Name:

Comment:
(limit 250
words)

Enter this word
(help):
Change

GUIDELINES: 
Please keep comments on-topic, courteous, clean, non-commercial, and within the word limit.
Read the complete guidelines