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Schwarzenegger Joins Opponents of Calif.'s Proposition 5
November 3, 2008

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Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger joined four former state governors this week in calling for voters to reject Proposition 5, a ballot initiative intended to steer more drug offenders into treatment rather than prison, the Los Angeles Times reported Oct. 31.

The current and former governors joined the state's prison-guards union, law-enforcement groups and many drug-court officials in opposing the ballot item; supporters include national drug-policy reform organizations and addiction treatment providers and physicians in California.

Schwarzenegger called Proposition 5 "a great threat to our neighborhoods ... It was written by those who care more about the rights of criminals." Former Gov. Gray Davis said the plan would "cost dollars and it will cost lives."

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) has also spoken out against the measure, telling voters in a recent commercial: "Say no to drug dealers."

Backers of the initiative -- which would add more funding for addiction treatment in California but has been criticized for allegedly undermining the state's drug-court system -- slammed the critics, accusing them of shilling for the prison guards. The Proposition 5 campaign has largely been underwritten by national funders like George Soros, while opposition is being spearheaded by the prison-guards union.

COMMENTS ON THIS ARTICLE:

Posted by A. Bassett on 06 Nov 08 01:45 PM EST
hOW LONG DOES AN ADDICTED OFFENDER HAVE TO REMAIN INCARCERATED IN ORDER THAT THEY DO NOY RE OFFEND? wE CAN JUST KEEP LOCKING THEM UP OR CHOOSE TO REHABILITATE DURING INCARCERATION. THE LATTER WILL BE LESS COSTLY ALL AROUND FOR ALL INVOLVED.

Posted by substance abuse counselor on 04 Nov 08 09:19 PM EST
I really think that addicts shouldn't be treated as criminals but the consequences of their behavior can't be minimized by throwing them a program.I agree with recovering addict and give them program while doing their time. That's why there are SAP yards. I'm sticking to my beliefs that down time is part of MY process and the guilt and remorse of not being here for my daughter is a huge part of my process of recovery.If we throw a pillow under the addict when they fall it might not be sooo bad and they may decide to try again and maybe die.

Posted by John from Oceanside on 04 Nov 08 05:46 PM EST
Dear Anonymous Prop 5 does not allow a judge the ability to use flash incarceration until an individual is busted for the sixth time. Hi Fred lets get real you were not ready for treatment in all those years you spent in prison and you know there were opportunities for you to access treatment but you didn't see the value. Let's see if maybe you can recall saying "I don't want to go hear some guy wine about his life at a meeting." Hang in there the fifth year can be a tough year in recovery be vigilant.

Posted by Fred Ortega on 04 Nov 08 03:47 PM EST
I spent many years in and out of prison due to my drug habit. Those years in prison were spent finding ways and means to continue using drugs while incarcerated. More times than none I already had a drug habit when I paroled. I had an opportunity for treatment and I never looked back have been clean for almost 5 years. Its your choice prison-treatment.

Posted by substance abuse counselor on 04 Nov 08 02:49 PM EST
Prop 36 is becoming a reason to minimize the consequences of I think most addicts behaviors and I think that lockdown time gives a person to think about what's really happening in their lives. Down time is a part of the process of recovery wether it's behind bars or not.

Posted by Anonymous on 04 Nov 08 01:58 PM EST
Prop. 5 holds offenders accountable. Under Prop. 5 participants have a conviction and jail or prison time hanging over their heads, they must comply with the terms of probation, the requirements of the judge and the rules of the treatment program. And Prop. 5 allows judges to use jail sanctions. By "accountability" are you really just talking about more jail time?

Posted by Luis M. Lozano on 04 Nov 08 01:55 PM EST
The governor has chosen to ally himself with the same group of Prison Guards that were trying to recall him. Just goes to show how much influence the prison guards have on our politicians in California. It is this same group who has contributed more to defeat this proposition and has contributed to the campaigns of these elected officials that are coming out against Proposition 5. I think the people of California will recognize the value of treatment as they did with Proposition 36 in 2000 and see through the lies and fear being spread by the guards and these policitians. Coming out against drug addicts is an easy out for them. Treatment will save lives, releave our over-crowded prisons and help put people back to work and back at home.

Posted by John from Oceanside on 04 Nov 08 01:49 PM EST
Treatment is a good thing, but with no accountability the court referrals will not show up. Dear Recovering Addict I have been clean 22 years and in that time jail has saved thousands of addicts I have met through the years and motivated them to change their lives. It motivated me and saved many personal friends lives. This Prop 5 has nothing to do with treatment. The person who wrote the Prop has no treatment background or experience.

Posted by Preventionist on 04 Nov 08 12:33 PM EST
Anything the Open Society Institute supports we know is all about legalizing drugs and drug dealing. Soros has lost any credibility a long time ago, sadly he can buy almost anything.. hopefully not a win though.

Posted by recovering addict on 04 Nov 08 11:56 AM EST
Is prison helping offenders with their drug problem, does it teach them and help them deal with life issues? Which one is more likely to help them become better people, treatment or prison? What if they had treatment in prison with the focus being on treatment not punishment?

Posted by Beern there on 04 Nov 08 11:35 AM EST
It's a flawed proposition that will remove funding fron successful, existing programs. It creates another level of bureacracy that cannot be managed and leaves those who are addicted but didn't commit a crime out in the cold. Hopefully this will not pass-but probably will due to the money promised to the revenue thin providers.

Posted by Margaret on 04 Nov 08 10:37 AM EST
On Election Day, I hope a majority of California voters see through those usual scare tactics - brought to us, by the way, by the same cast of characters that overcrowded the prisons in the first place! They are baseless and carefully designed for only one purpose - to deceive voters. Today I'm ready for a different approach!

Posted by Sam Albert on 04 Nov 08 10:20 AM EST
You have to be kidding. Are there still those who think we are going to arrest our way out of this problem?

Posted by John on 04 Nov 08 10:16 AM EST
We have the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world. Prision jobs pay extremely well. Treatment shrinks their system. Having worked in the treatment field with both incarcerated and public patients, I have found treatment works. It takes longer follow up (2 years for some) with those in the criminal justice system. The prison system does not want to support this. Jails should be reserved for career criminals and those who endanger the public.

Posted by WeRalldoingtime on 04 Nov 08 08:33 AM EST
The Criminals are the ones,who stand at Schwarzeneggers side~who built this bloody prison empire,which has banrupt California~they have received big fat checks from the Guards union Prop 5: Do Sick People Deserve Drug Treatment or Jail Time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BZxIFkeu_Q YES on Prop. 5. Proposition 5 cuts prison costs and will help to improve California's budget for years to come. Prop. 5 will reduce overcrowding in the state's prisons by addressing problems at their roots. Under Prop. 5, fewer people will get locked up for drug crimes and more people, including youth, will have access to drug treatment services and reentry resources. Prop. 5 makes rehabilitation the primary objective of corrections and creates viable pathways for youth to get back on track~~

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