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Hawaiian Legislature Won't Overturn Medical Marijuana Veto
July 14, 2008

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A bill aimed at improving Hawaii's medical-marijuana law was vetoed by Gov. Linda Lingle, and the state House failed to bring an override vote to the floor, the Hawaii Tribune Herald reported July 11.

The state Senate had voted 20-1 in favor of a veto override.

The measure would have established a task force to determine the amount of marijuana that should constitute a patient's supply, legal ways to grow the drug on Hawaii for medical use, and other issues. Lingle, however, called the bill "an exercise aimed at finding ways to circumvent federal law.

"The use of marijuana, even medical marijuana, is illegal under federal law," she wrote in her veto message. "It is, therefore, inappropriate for the state to recommend ways to maintain or increase the supply of marijuana, to make recommendations regarding the development of marijuana growing facilities, or to seek ways to circumvent federal prohibitions regarding the transport of marijuana."

The governor also objected to establishing the task force at the University of Hawaii, saying it could jeopardize federal funding for the school. "While I am sympathetic toward those who suffer debilitating illnesses and appreciate organizations and advocates who are representing their interests, the task force should have at heart the interests of the community at large. There are a host of unintended consequences related to the proliferation of medical marijuana that this task force is not required to address."

Supporters said that some version of the legislation was likely to be reintroduced during the next session of the state legislature.

COMMENTS ON THIS ARTICLE:

Posted by John from Oceanside on 15 Jul 08 11:11 AM EDT
Thank God for Gov. Lingle she's got enough common sence and conviction to make a stand. Here in California the politicians have no courage except the Board of Supervisors for San Diego County. Gov. Lingle doesn't want to see illegal businesses selling weed in neighborhoods like L.A and S.F. Here in San Diego the people who opened those types of shops are doing STATE TIME in prison. Our District Attorney proved they were selling to anyone who walked in the door. They were breaking our State Laws. Gov. Lingle understands what a scam the so called medical weed is.

Posted by Donald B Parsons on 15 Jul 08 07:31 PM EDT
Hi John, Here we find ourselves once more. I'm gonna start a little differently this time round by agreeing with you. I'm TOTALLY against fly by night doctors giving away FALSE documents to non-medical patients and to facilities dealing to anyone who walks in the door. They get what they deserve but lets not throw out the baby with the bath water. For 10's of thousands of years marijuana HAS been and always will be a MEDICINE and should be treated accordinly. If a person abuses a drug (illicit or prescription)and commits a crime then address the crime. Marijuana users have no desire to commit crimes other than(that in itself) the only crime committed while smoking marijuana. You know its all ONDCP , NIDA and DEA anti-marijuana propaganda..... ( There John did I get that last sentence right? LOL.

Posted by James retired physician on 18 Jul 08 10:40 AM EDT
Hey Donald, marijuana is as much a "MEDICINE" as is heroin... recreational, pure and simple! It has never been considered a mainstream "MEDICINE" and has no unique therapeutic qualities unless you consider hallucinating therapeutic. There are plenty of legitimate drugs to alleviate pain, depression, anxiety etc. without allowing a bunch of potheads to sit around and smoke marijuana. Having AIDS or cancer is no excuse to allow this kind of anti-social behavior. Where have you been not to recognize that pot users have a higher rate of having accidents and committing violent crimes than does the general population? Governor Lingle is to be commended for her decision in this matter.

Posted by Donald B Parsons on 18 Jul 08 07:54 PM EDT
James ought to check his facts in History concerning Cannabis and it's extracts known as MEDICINES before 1937 when it was banned (demonized) for PREJUDICIAL reasons. Another fact is that cannabis is not a hallucinagen, that is what LSD and magic mushrooms (psyclibin) are for. I don't care for your "legitimate" PRESCIPTION POISON that KILL more children in ONE year than marijuana has EVER killed in thousands of years. YOU may have a problem with the illicit drugs (as do I, most) but naturally organic drugs can be grown in the ground and used responsibly in their NATURAL form the way the good Lord intended. ANTI-SOCIAL behavior??? By WHO'S STANDARDS??? YOURS??? I'll take a bunch of POTHEADS sitting around contemplating JAZZ any day over a bunch of Alcoholics who statistically have far more health problems, accidents, deaths, spousal/child abuse and just a much more DRAIN on society then any POTHEAD.. The last thing a POTHEAD wants to do is commit crimes let alone VIOLENT CRIMES.

Posted by Donald B Parsons on 18 Jul 08 08:08 PM EDT
re: James,I implore you to divulge a source showing a POTHEAD committing a VIOLENT crime. I don't mean an article like this: Disgruntled Ex-employee kills Co-workers.where an ex-employee drinks heavily, loads his guns, smokes a joint, kills co-workers and ex-boss. Someone with your predisposed position on marijuana would get this out of that same story. Man smokes marijuana joint then kills co-workers. I would hope that a man of your intelligence (a retired physcian) would have a more open mind and INFORMED opinion

Posted by Donald B Parsons on 20 Jul 08 07:37 AM EDT
re: James (retired physcian):The Florida Medical Examiners Commission says that autopsies show that prescription drugs kill three times more people in Florida than all illicit drugs combined, the New York Times reported June 14. Blame for the trend was laid at abuse of prescription drugs. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration estimates that 7 million Americans abuse prescription drugs, more than the combined number of users of cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens, Ecstasy and inhalants. Of the 168,900 deaths examined, legal opioids like Vicodin and OxyContin caused 2,328. Benzodizepines like Valium and Xanax caused 743 deaths. Illicit drugs caused 989 deaths. Alcohol was present in the bodies of 4,179 of the dead, and alcohol was considered the cause of death in 466 cases, compared to 843 deaths caused by cocaine, 25 deaths attributed to methamphetamine, and no deaths attributed to marijuana. THIS IS A JOIN TOGETHER ARTICLE from June 16, 2008..ENOUGH SAID!!!

Posted by Donald B Parsons on 28 Jul 08 09:40 AM EDT
Heres another PRESCRIPTION KILLER for the continuing list, John and James.(Where are you 2? I miss debating you guys.) The U.S. government for the first time has quantified the loss of life resulting from a spike in fentanyl use in recent years, stating that 1,013 people died of fentanyl overdoses from April 2005 through March 2007, the Associated Press reported July 24. Illegally made versions of the drug are sold in powder form and often are mixed with cocaine or heroin, sometimes unbeknownst to users. The narcotic is considered 30 to 50 times more potent than heroin. Researchers for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) used information such as drugs found at the scene of an overdose to distinguish between deaths from illegally manufactured fentanyl and deaths from misuse of the pharmaceutical product. Researchers said the overall numbers in the report likely understate the overall problem because they are derived from data from only two states (New Jersey and Delaware) and four cities (Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia and St. Louis).

Posted by Shaman Stacy on 06 Jan 09 08:31 AM EST
Sad that a doctor doesn't even read the research on cannabis' uses as a medicine. It's only been used for over 2500 years and only removed from pharmacology since the 1940's. And it does have unique therapeutic qualities including antibiotic (kills MRSA) neuroprotective and anti-inflammatory among others. Oh and heroin is used a medicine it's called oxycontin and drug companies make billions on it. And James, people should be able to chose the drugs and methods they want to use to treat their conditions not the government. Your propagandist reefer madness crap just undermines real education about illicit substances. People actually die from perscription drugs because doctors like you tell them they're safer than the 'killer weed'. People think that if the government approves them they're safe and they're dying because of it. There is no evidence to support your claim of cannabis users causing more accidents of any kind and studies show that people who drive while high are actually risk averse and most chose not to drive while high. Unlike those who consume alcohol.

Posted by Shaman Stacy on 06 Jan 09 08:33 AM EST
There is also no evidence to support your ridiculous claim that cannabis users commit more violent crime than non users. This is nothing more than propaganda perpetuated by those who have something to gain from prohibition. If any drug users commit more crimes it's because of prohibition and the effects of the black market on prices because of it. Oh and smoking cannabis is actually anti anti-social. Many people who smoke do so in a social way, it's the crazy laws that make cannabis users more anti-social. Studies have actually found that animals who get stoned in the name of science actually become more social. Maybe cannabis could be a treatment for anti-social personality disorder?The governor should be ashamed to stay in office. It is the duty of state politicians to uphold and defend the laws of there STATE whether they agree with them or not! The supreme court even said so. Let the feds uphold federal law that's what they get paid to do. Sorry you guys don't like the law but it's still the law and those who are paid by the taxpayers have a duty to do what they're told by those taxpayers. If they don't they should be removed from office, period.

Posted by Shaman Stacy on 06 Jan 09 08:33 AM EST
Such a shame that people are so misinformed. Especially those who are supposedly educated and held in higher esteem. James please don't argue about something you obviously know little to nothing about. It just makes you look stupid and makes the field of medicine seem less credible than it already is. Oh and by the way, hallucinating actually IS therapeutic. It's been shown that people who 'trip' actually have a better quality of life after the trip, even if the trip is a bad one. Just FYI. Blessed be~

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